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Post  NeonMonk on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:40 pm

Hello,

Could this book be where Papilla Power originally learned how to grow his hair back?

http://www.amazon.com/Growing-New-Hair-Margo/dp/0914398326

I think it might be. I've ordered a copy and cannot wait to try it out.

PP originally said in an previous topic that the used book was going for $100 +, which in some cases it is (especially if you go for a hardcover version), but the above copies (paperback) at Amazon are between $3 & $55, the price or cheaper that you'd pay for a current hair loss treatment book.

Now, is this the actual book PP ordered in the '80s to cure his baldness? I can't say for that certain, but I do have a very strong reason why I think it is. Why? Well, because he mentioned he read a paper in the early '80s that had an ad selling a book which said "GROW NEW HAIR". He ordered the book and the rest is history.

Source: http://www.grownewhair.net/about.php

And I think I found the advertisement. I still can't believe I did. (God Damn! The internet is a crazy place!).

Here's the ad: https://i.servimg.com/u/f48/17/38/05/27/growne10.jpg

I lifted the ad from a 1981 copy of "Weekly World News". So the time is right around when PP first saw the ad and the title of the ad matches his story. So that's why I think it's the same book.

Book title: "Growing New Hair! How to Keep What You Have and FIll in Where It's Thin"
Author: Margo

The title of the advertisement is: "Grow New Hair! No Creams, Oils or Lotions - No Hormones or Vitamins - No Wigs, Hair Weaves, Implants or Transplants - In Fact, No Gimmicks, No Gadgets, And No Bull!

^Sounds familiar Wink

Now don't go crazy and buy expensive copies unless you have the money to burn. I can't say for certain that this is PP's method. I spent less than $10 so no real harm if it's not what I'm looking for. I'm just worried that someone will buy a $100 copy!

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Post  hellwig on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:41 pm

Good find. Funny how he gave us the rope to hang himself by telling everyone he copied the book

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Post  tudor on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:47 pm

Good job neonmonk...make a summary of the method after you read the book...P.S-ever considered becoming a detective? Very Happy


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Post  hellwig on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:48 pm

I've just bought this from amazon UK for 1 pence hahahaaa

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Post  GoodThings on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:13 am

Jesus man, you have got some terrific research skills. Very Happy

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:53 am

I already have a copy of this, via PDF.

Here's a temporary download link. Get it while you can!

sendspace.com r400tp

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Post  EazyGo on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:20 am

caustic that link doesnt work

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:24 am

It must be one of those limited upload links

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Post  9rugrats5 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:25 am

Aha! Nice move there, CS, thanks.
Edit- I could download. Check if a popup blocker is active, or try in a different browser maybe.
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Post  EazyGo on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:53 am

Yeah I got it now

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Post  Columbo on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:00 am

Ah, good stuff Neon and CS!

Saved me having to piss about getting an NDA and the fella now requesting a "donation" up front.

Good stuff
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Post  tudor on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:17 am

Cs is this a summary of the book witch has 112 pages?


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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:23 am

Mine only has 35 pages.

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Post  Gibson on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:40 am

arghh. For some reason I can't download. I thought it was a ploy to get clicks. I'll try from home. That said, I hesitated buying a book this morning only to see the only one's that are left are now in the $30 range.

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Post  Gibson on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:42 am

now up to 70 bucks

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Post  dreft on Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:26 am

Companies are spending millions of dollars on research when there are 70$ books out there that can cure hair loss?...doesn't make much sense to me, I wouldn't get my hopes up with this one

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Post  NeonMonk on Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:43 am

Thanks guys! By sharing the name of the book, I didn't do anything you guys wouldn't have had you found it.

Once upon a time I used to work in a bookshop, and people would come up to me with really vague descriptions on books. From their information I had to try and find the book for them, so I think my past employment gave me some techniques in tracking down books. Haha.

CS, thank you for the link. That's gnarly! Since I don't live in the States, I generally have to wait a few weeks for books to get here, so I really appreciate you posting a summary link. Also saves me from spending time summarising when I finally get the book.

mihai wrote:Companies are spending millions of dollars on research when there are 70$ books out there that can cure hair loss?...doesn't make much sense to me, I wouldn't get my hopes up with this one

Yes, I'm thinking along the same lines. Apparently the advertisement was in magazines, newspapers, and apparently the book was advertised on TV in the '80's. So a few decades ago, it seems as though this technique would have been quite common. However, for some reason, the knowledge died. Quite possibly because it doesn't work.

But the good news is that we can all discuss the technique openly now. Share our progress and find out for ourselves.

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Post  gutted on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:01 am

intresting...

i do believe lack of circulation is implicated in baldness.

if you look at electrolysis (permanent hair removal) a needle is used to deliver a small elctrical current to the blood supply of the follicle. If the blood supply was damaged sucessfully the hair would not grow back.
However if the blood supply was partially dammaged a weaker/thinner/finer hair grows, i have personally witnessed this.

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Post  calvicie on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:25 am

NeonMonk wrote:However, for some reason, the knowledge died. Quite possibly because it doesn't work.
or perhaps, as in typical in our society today, everyone wants a simple pill and a quick fix, so four months of rubbing your head for any sign of progress is out of the question. plus, we are so conditioned to accept that treating a symptom with drugs is better than curing the root of the problem naturally; as such, who knows....
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Post  SlowMoe on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:04 pm

mihai wrote:Companies are spending millions of dollars on research when there are 70$ books out there that can cure hair loss?...doesn't make much sense to me, I wouldn't get my hopes up with this one
** spending millions if dollars on a way to PATENT a cure. You can't patent a natural method
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Post  wildman on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:00 pm

What are you talking about? Gave you the rope?

I think PP said he wrote a thesis. Which means, you put forth a theory, and support the theory with evidence that backs it up. I think that's how it works. I think it's brilliant, really.

I've gone through his posts, his website, his forum and I don't believe he ever said he copied anything. The fact is, even if this is the "silver bullet" so to speak, would anyone even have taken the time or effort to know about it, if it wasn't for PP?


hellwig wrote:Good find. Funny how he gave us the rope to hang himself by telling everyone he copied the book

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Post  9rugrats5 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:15 pm

Wildman, you may like to go through his posts again. Actually, PP has been quite nice in many ways- he honestly admitted that his method was not his own but that he read it in a magazine or book decades back (the original author was dead, he said); he brought the attention of the forum to circulation; he made many helpful posts.

Would it have been nicer if he freely shared what he had learned from another? Yes, but one can understand that there could be many reasons for his decision. It's wrong to talk about 'rope' or that his mention of an advertisement or magazine or book was his mistake. It would be better to say he knew something, of which he dropped hints and clues, and shared about a quarter. He was always very honest about everything, imho, something to appreciate.
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Post  hellwig on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:41 pm

mihai wrote:Companies are spending millions of dollars on research when there are 70$ books out there that can cure hair loss?...doesn't make much sense to me, I wouldn't get my hopes up with this one

People are spending money and risking their health by having operations to help them lose weight when all they have to do is change their diet... doesnt make much sense to me, I wouldnt get my hopes up

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Post  wildman on Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:30 pm

Point taken.

Why should he have shared anything more than he did? Have you read some of the things people were saying to him? I find it repulsive that people say the things they did, simply because they don't believe him. Personally, I have no problem signing or having a NDA or having one Notarized. In fact, I respect that. If what teaches actually does work,then that is his prerogative. The method itself may not be his, but Papilla Power IS very much his. From what I understand, he wrote Papilla Power and had it published as a thesis and used the method he learned to support his theory, that new hair will grow if one does what he teaches.

Say what you want, but that to me is, brilliant. Here's my theory, and this is how I'm going to support it. Pretty simple.



9rugrats5 wrote:Wildman, you may like to go through his posts again. Actually, PP has been quite nice in many ways- he honestly admitted that his method was not his own but that he read it in a magazine or book decades back (the original author was dead, he said); he brought the attention of the forum to circulation; he made many helpful posts.

Would it have been nicer if he freely shared what he had learned from another? Yes, but one can understand that there could be many reasons for his decision. It's wrong to talk about 'rope' or that his mention of an advertisement or magazine or book was his mistake. It would be better to say he knew something, of which he dropped hints and clues, and shared about a quarter. He was always very honest about everything, imho, something to appreciate.

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Post  MikeGore on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:38 am

The fact is, even if this is the "silver bullet" so to speak, would anyone even have taken the time or effort to know about it, if it wasn't for PP?

I completely agree with this. If it wasn't for Papilla Power, no one would take notice of this. Certainly no one would go to look for something that disappeared in the 80s. The only reason that it is given importance now, is because PP gave it importance and we have seen people getting results with this method. PP has admirably stated in his posts that he won't charge for this method, and that he would ONLY accept donations IF it worked for them also. After all, he did write a thesis, and there is nothing wrong in wanting to protect something written. People have to be feeling pretty dumb and ashamed right now, because I remember a lot of people ridiculing blood circulation theory before, and repeatedly like brainwashed imbeciles stating things like "propecia and minoxidil are the only FDA approved treatments for hair loss that works" blah blah blah. I'm not specifically referring to this forum, but a lot of other hair loss forums had this tone to it.

People should really learn that the FDA's seal of approval doesn't mean anything. They have to learn that the FDA isn't like some kind of charity organization dedicated to the well being of mankind. People have this idea that officialism always means something works or is safe, and poor people even think that buying non-FDA approved products is foolish. What idiocy; waiting for government to give them their answers. Who came up with this non-sense, waiting for money obsessed corporations to approve something, what a ton of baloney. If something doesn't allow them to accumulate more of their precious piece of paper which has hypnotized the masses, they do not approve it. Plain and simple.

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